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Partnering Leadership
Partnering Leadership
Partnering Leadership is an award-winning global podcast for CEOs, board members, and senior executives who want to think more clearly about what is changing, what may be coming next, and what it means for their organizations. Hosted by Mahan Tavakoli, the podcast draws on 450+ conversations with CEOs, founders, researchers, futurists, and leading thinkers on strategy, leadership, organizational transformation, innovation, and AI. The conversations go beyond generic leadership advice. They explore the questions senior leaders increasingly need to wrestle with: What is changing that could reshape our business? Which assumptions about strategy, customers, work, and organizations may no longer hold? What will AI change beyond productivity? Where might value move next? How should organizations and leadership evolve as the answers change? Guests have included Ram Charan, John Kotter, Stephen M.R. Covey, Ajay Agrawal, Azeem Azhar, Ranjay Gulati, Sangeet Paul Choudary, David Marquet, Bob Johansen, David Rubenstein, Jean Case, Paul Daugherty, Carolyn Dewar, Whitney Johnson, Ron Adner, and many others shaping how leaders think about strategy, organizations, technology, and the future of business. Mahan brings an advisor’s perspective to each conversation, pushing beyond surface-level answers to explore the choices, trade-offs, and implications that matter in the C-suite and boardroom. The result is a broader, more forward-looking perspective on the decisions leaders are making today and the ones they may need to make sooner than they think. Available on all major podcast platforms and at PartneringLeadership.com.
June 2, 2026

454 The Hidden Cost of "Good" Leadership with David Grossman

454 The Hidden Cost of "Good" Leadership with David Grossman
454 The Hidden Cost of "Good" Leadership with David Grossman
Partnering Leadership
454 The Hidden Cost of "Good" Leadership with David Grossman

David Grossman joins Mahan Tavakoli on this episode of Partnering Leadership to explore one of the most uncomfortable truths in leadership today: the biggest threat to organizations is often not bad leadership. It is “good enough” leadership that quietly creates complacency, disengagement, and organizational drift beneath the surface.

David is the founder and CEO of The Grossman Group and the author of The Heart Work of Modern Leadership: Six Differentiators of Exceptional Leaders. Drawing on original research conducted with The Harris Poll, he shares what employees actually say they need from leaders in a period marked by AI disruption, uncertainty, burnout, and rapid change. The findings challenge many traditional assumptions about leadership effectiveness and reveal why so many organizations look stable externally while struggling internally.

Throughout the conversation, David and Mahan explore the widening gap between leadership intentions and employee experiences. They discuss why employees today are asking deeper questions about belonging, growth, safety, and meaning, and why many leaders are still relying on management approaches built for more predictable times. The discussion moves beyond generic conversations about empathy and “soft skills” and instead reframes these capabilities as strategic leadership requirements tied directly to performance, innovation, retention, and adaptability.

The conversation also takes a practical turn as David shares actionable frameworks leaders can use immediately. From creating psychological safety and handling difficult feedback to managing one’s own emotional state under pressure, the discussion connects neuroscience, organizational culture, and executive leadership in ways that are both deeply human and highly operational. One especially compelling section explores why AI may amplify the importance of human-centered leadership rather than diminish it.

This is a substantive conversation for CEOs, executives, board leaders, and anyone responsible for leading people through uncertainty and transformation. David Grossman offers both a compelling challenge and a hopeful path forward for leaders who want to move beyond “good enough” and build organizations where people feel heard, valued, safe, and capable of doing their best work.

Actionable Takeaways

• You’ll learn why “good enough” leadership may be far more dangerous than openly poor leadership.

• Hear how organizations slowly drift into disengagement and complacency even when performance metrics appear healthy.

• Learn why employees today are asking deeper emotional questions that many leadership teams still fail to recognize.

• Hear David Grossman explain why psychological safety is not a culture initiative. It is a business performance issue.

• You’ll learn the hidden reason many employees do not speak up, even in organizations that claim to value feedback.

• Hear how exceptional leaders create trust by understanding the personal stories, motivations, and aspirations of their people.

• Learn why gratitude emerged as one of the strongest differentiators between exceptional leaders and everyone else.

• Hear the leadership lesson David learned while teaching his teenage daughter how to drive and why it applies directly to executive presence under pressure.

• You’ll learn why AI may increase the importance of human leadership rather than reduce it.

• Hear how flexibility becomes a trust builder when leaders approach it relationally rather than transactionally.

• Learn why many traditional leadership development programs fail to move the needle inside organizations.

• Hear practical ways leaders can create environments where employees feel safe enough to tell them the truth.


Connect with David Grossman

David Grossman Website

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The Heart Work of Modern Leadership



Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:

Mahan Tavakoli Website

Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn

Partnering Leadership Website