In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli is joined by Margie Warrell, a global leadership advisor and the author of The Courage Gap. The conversation goes beyond familiar ideas about confidence and resilience to explore what courage really looks like when leaders are facing uncertainty, fear, and high-stakes decisions.
Drawing on her upbringing on a small dairy farm in Australia and decades of work with senior leaders, Margie reframes courage not as bravado or fearlessness, but as a practical leadership capability. One that becomes essential when leaders are navigating disruption, AI-driven change, anxious workforces, and expectations to have answers they simply cannot have.
A central theme of the discussion is identity. Margie challenges leaders to stop asking only “What should I do?” and instead ask, “Who do I need to be right now?” She explains why leadership effectiveness often hinges less on technical expertise and more on emotional regulation, values-based decision-making, and the ability to act even when fear is present.
The conversation also tackles topics many executives experience but rarely discuss openly, including imposter syndrome, fear of judgment, and the pressure to project certainty. Margie offers grounded insights on why these experiences are common among high performers and how leaders can work with fear rather than being constrained by it.
This episode is a thoughtful, practical exploration of what courageous leadership looks like in real organizational contexts, not in theory, but in the moments where leaders are stretched, uncomfortable, and most needed by their teams.
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