Partnering Leadership

Episodes

April 21, 2026

447 The Octopus Organization: Why Traditional Leadership Breaks in a Complex World with Phil Le-Brun & Jana Werner

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with Phil Le-Brun and Jana Werner, co-authors of The Octopus Organization. Drawing on decades of leadership experience across global organizations, they challenge one of the most deeply embedded assumptions in business: that organizations can still be run like machines. At the heart of the conversation is a stark contrast between what they call “tinman” organizations and “octopus” organizations. Tinman organizations are built fo...
April 14, 2026

446 How Leaders Decide What Matters as AI Reshapes Value and Uncertainty Grows, Mahan Tavakoli interviewed by Vimi Appadoo & Akilesh Deerpalsingh

This episode offers a different lens on leadership in a time of accelerating change. In this conversation, Mahan Tavakoli is interviewed by Vimi Appadoo and Akilesh Deerpalsingh, senior leaders working closely with CEOs and executive teams in Mauritius through their roles at Dale Carnegie Mauritius and Baker Tilly Mauritius. The discussion emerged as part of a broader set of conversations leading up to a C-suite dialogue with senior leaders in the region. The questions they explore will sound...
April 7, 2026

445 The Hidden Cost of Change: What Leaders Miss About Loss and Resistance with Amy Jacobson

Most leaders don’t struggle with strategy. They struggle with how people respond to it. In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with Amy Jacobson, author of The Emotional Intelligence Advantage: Mastering Change and Difficult Conversations. Amy brings a practical, grounded perspective on emotional intelligence, shaped by her work with leadership teams navigating real organizational challenges, not theoretical models. The conversation goes beyond the usual discussion...
April 2, 2026

444 Thursday Refresh: Mita Mallick on The Devil Emails at Midnight: What Good Leaders Can Learn From Bad Bosses

What if the “panic habits” leaders default to are the very things burning out their best people? In this Partnering Leadership episode, Mita Mallick—author of The Devil Emails at Midnight—joins Mahan to unpack practical ways senior leaders can replace performative urgency with clear operating rules that people can trust. You will hear why bad bosses are made, not born, and how pressure from markets, role models, and personal crises can turn ordinary leaders into micromanagers. Mita gets specifi...
March 31, 2026

443 What Secret Service Interrogators Know About Trust That Most Leaders Miss with Brad Beeler

Trust sits at the center of every meaningful leadership conversation. Yet many leaders struggle to create the conditions where people feel comfortable sharing what they really think. In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli speaks with Brad Beeler, a former U.S. Secret Service agent and the author of Tell Me Everything: A Secret Service Agent’s Proven Strategies for Earning Trust, Revealing the Truth, and Communicating with Anyone. Drawing on more than two decades of experience c...
March 24, 2026

442 The Soul of Strategy: Why Healing Our Leadership is the Next Frontier of Capitalism with Raj Sisodia

In this compelling conversation, Raj Sisodia — co-founder of Conscious Capitalism and bestselling author of Firms of Endearment — joins the podcast to discuss his newest work, Healing Leaders. Widely recognized as one of the most influential voices reshaping modern business thinking, Raj brings decades of research, lived experience, and global perspective to a topic that sits at the center of organizational performance: the inner state of the leader. Across the episode, Raj takes listeners on a...
March 17, 2026

441 The AI Ultimatum: What Leaders Must Decide Now with Steve Brown

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with Steve Brown, a leading AI futurist and former executive at organizations including Intel and DeepMind. Brown brings a rare combination of technical depth and leadership perspective, shaped by decades at the forefront of technological change and his work advising leaders around the world on the implications of artificial intelligence. The conversation centers on Brown’s book, The AI Ultimatum, and the core argument behind it...
March 10, 2026

440 The Four Forces of Growth: How to Stop Fixing Problems and Start Scaling Again with Kevin Lawrence

Growth stalls in organizations far more often than leaders expect. Not because ambition fades, or talent disappears, but because focus drifts. In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with Kevin Lawrence, a long-time advisor to CEOs and executive teams, to explore why capable organizations lose their growth orientation and how leaders can recognize the warning signs early. Kevin draws on decades of experience in boardrooms and leadership off-sites around the world, as ...
March 5, 2026

439 Thursday Refresh: Alfredo De Massis on Designing What Lasts: How Great Leaders Reimagine Ownership, Innovation, and Legacy

What does it take to build something that lasts—not just for years, but across generations? In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli is joined by Alfredo De Massis, a globally recognized expert on family enterprise and author of The Family Business Book: A Roadmap for Entrepreneurial Families to Prosper Across Generations. As one of the most cited scholars in the field and a trusted advisor to multi-generational family businesses around the world, De Massis offers a rare combinat...
March 3, 2026

438 Hope Is the Strategy: What It Means to Lead When You Don’t Have All the Answers with Jen Fisher

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli is joined by Jen Fisher, one of the most influential voices shaping how leaders think about work, wellbeing, and human sustainability. Jen is the former Chief Wellbeing Officer at Deloitte, where she spent more than two decades helping leaders confront burnout, redesign work, and rethink what success actually means inside large, complex organizations. The conversation centers on the ideas behind Jen’s book, Hope Is the Strategy, and chall...
Feb. 24, 2026

437 If AI Keeps Getting Smarter, What’s the Leader’s Real Job Now and Where Human Judgment Still Matters with Andrea Iorio

As AI accelerates, many leadership conversations focus on tools, efficiency, and productivity. This episode of Partnering Leadership takes a different approach. Host Mahan Tavakoli is joined by Andrea Iorio, a global AI thought leader, former senior executive at Tinder and L’Oréal, and the author of Between You and AI. Andrea brings a rare combination of global operating experience, deep technology fluency, and philosophical clarity to the conversation. Rather than asking how leaders can use AI...
Feb. 17, 2026

436 Closing the Courage Gap: How Leaders Act Bravely in Uncertain Times with Margie Warrell

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli is joined by Margie Warrell, a global leadership advisor and the author of The Courage Gap. The conversation goes beyond familiar ideas about confidence and resilience to explore what courage really looks like when leaders are facing uncertainty, fear, and high-stakes decisions. Drawing on her upbringing on a small dairy farm in Australia and decades of work with senior leaders, Margie reframes courage not as bravado or fearlessness, but ...
Feb. 10, 2026

435 Love as a Change Strategy: Why Most Change Efforts Fail and What Builds Real Commitment with Mohammad F. Anwar

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with Mohammad Anwar, founder and CEO of Softway and co-author of the book Love as a Change Strategy. Together, they take on one of the most misunderstood ideas in leadership: whether love has any place in driving performance, innovation, and large-scale change. Mohammad’s perspective is not theoretical. He shares a deeply personal leadership story, tracing how a fear-driven, control-oriented approach nearly destroyed his company...
Feb. 5, 2026

434 Thursday Refresh: Greg Shove on Leading Through AI

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli is joined by Greg Shove, CEO of Section and a serial entrepreneur with a deep track record of leading transformative growth. Shove’s leadership journey includes multiple successful pivots, and in this conversation, he brings a uniquely grounded perspective on how AI is fundamentally changing the role of leaders and the structure of modern organizations. From board-level decision-making to frontline productivity, he doesn’t just speculate—h...
Feb. 3, 2026

433 Negotiating Without Games: The Four Levers That Create Trust and Higher Deal Value With Todd Caponi

Negotiation and sales are often treated as tactical skills. Something leaders do at the end of the process, armed with tricks, pressure, and leverage. In this conversation, Todd Caponi makes the case that this mindset is outdated—and increasingly damaging for leaders operating in a world of transparency, information abundance, and long-term accountability. Todd draws on his experience as a former Chief Revenue Officer, his deep study of the history of sales and negotiation, and his latest book,...
Jan. 27, 2026

432 Leading in a BANI World: Making Sense of Chaos with Bob Johansen and Jamais Cascio

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, futurists Bob Johansen and Jamais Cascio join the conversation to explore the ideas behind their new book, The Age of Chaos: A Sense-Making Guide to a BANI World That Doesn’t Make Sense. Both guests bring decades of deep foresight work, scenario planning, and leadership insight—Bob through more than 50 years with the Institute for the Future, and Jamais as the originator of the BANI framework (“brittle, anxious, nonlinear, incomprehensible”). Their combi...
Jan. 20, 2026

431 What It Takes to Lead When the Rules Keep Changing: Strategy, Identity, and the Real Work of Transformation with Louisa Loran

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with Louisa Loran, a seasoned executive advisor whose career spans legacy brands, global industrial giants, and one of the world’s most influential technology companies. Louisa brings a rare perspective shaped by leadership roles at Diageo, Maersk, and Google—giving her a front-row seat to how strategy, operating models, and leadership expectations shift across industries and eras. The conversation centers on a hard truth many l...
Jan. 13, 2026

430 Unwavering Teams: How Leaders Reduce Friction and Build Trust That Lasts with Eric Termuende

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with Eric Termuende, leadership thinker, speaker, and author of Rethink Work: Finding & Keeping the Right Talent, for a grounded conversation about what actually holds teams together in times of uncertainty. Rather than focusing on trends or surface-level engagement tactics, the discussion explores why trust, clarity, and human connection remain the real differentiators for leaders trying to reduce friction and sustain performan...
Jan. 6, 2026

429 Why Self-Awareness Is a CEO’s Real Competitive Edge: Lessons from Les Csorba, Author of Aware

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli speaks with Les Csorba — senior partner at Heidrick & Struggles and author of Aware: The Power of Seeing Yourself Clearly. Drawing on decades advising CEOs, boards, and leadership teams, Les makes a compelling case that self-awareness is not a soft skill but a strategic differentiator. With leaders facing complexity, speed, and pressure unlike anything in recent memory, Les argues that the ability to see yourself clearly has become a true ...
Jan. 1, 2026

428 Thursday Refresh: Dr. Bernard Harris, Embracing Infinite Possibilities

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli speaks with Dr. Bernard Harris, a leader whose extraordinary career trajectory—from physician to NASA astronaut to CEO and venture capitalist—offers rare insights into the inner work of leadership. Dr. Harris is the first African American to walk in space, and the author of Embracing Infinite Possibilities: Letting Go of Fear to Find Your Highest Potential. His unique vantage point, shaped by science, space exploration, and C-suite leaders...
Dec. 30, 2025

427 [BEST OF] David Ross on Confronting the Storm - Leadership, Hope, and Navigating Wicked Problems in the Age of Uncertainty

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli sits down with David Ross, VUCA strategist and author of Confronting the Storm: Regenerating Leadership and Hope in the Age of Uncertainty. David is a renowned expert on VUCA (Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, Ambiguous) environments and has spent his career advising organizations on how to thrive amidst complexity and disruption. With a background as an ecologist, David brings a unique perspective to leadership—one that emphasizes the interco...
Dec. 23, 2025

426 [BEST OF] Mark Schaefer on How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World

In this compelling episode of the Partnering Leadership podcast, Mark Schaefer returns to share fresh, provocative insights from his latest book, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. A globally respected marketing strategist, bestselling author, and deep observer of technological change, Schaefer brings sharp clarity to a pressing leadership question: what does it take to stay relevant when artificial intelligence makes intelligence itself abundant? Rather than offering a simplis...
Dec. 16, 2025

425 How to Build a Culture of Innovation That Actually Works with Alan Gregerman

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli is joined by Alan Gregerman, innovation advisor and author of The Wisdom of Ignorance: Why Not Knowing Can Be the Key to Innovation in an Uncertain World. Gregerman has spent his career helping organizations rethink what expertise is, how innovation really happens, and why the answers leaders rely on can quietly become their biggest obstacles. Alan’s core argument is simple but uncomfortable: what leaders don’t know matters more than what...
Dec. 9, 2025

424 Quick Leadership in a Distracted World: Trust, Power, and the New Rules of Leading Teams with Selena Rezvani

In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Selena Rezvani invites leaders to rethink some of the most deeply ingrained assumptions about modern management. Drawing from her new book Quick Leadership and years of work with top-performing organizations, Selena challenges CEOs and senior leaders to examine the hidden forces shaping their teams’ behavior—especially the unspoken power dynamics that still drive command-and-control cultures even when leaders insist they’ve moved past them. Her insights ...